Bill 132 Now in Effect
posted Monday August 29, 2005 @ 16:41 by theferg
Everyone keep an eye on your mutts!
Now that Satan, I mean Attorney General Michael Bryant has his way and Bill 132 is in effect EVERYONE has to keep a close eye on their pooches lest they misbehave and get sent to the gas chamber. R2K, yours comes knee high to a grasshopper, and Biggies cats are always breaking the law so they don't count...I don't think Chris' dog has been able to move in the last 4 years let alone cause trouble...but ya make sure they are leashed and never get a chance to bite anyone. If they do, its off to the doggy pound no questions asked and you get slapped with a fine up to 10G and a possible 6 month stint in the pokey.
On our way to mail some letters Lexy and I encountered 3 offleash no collared pit bulls...let the games begin....sigh :|
posted by wolf on Monday August 29, 2005 @ 18:02:
heh with the italic fonts i thought that said "keep an eye on your muffs"
posted by R2K on Monday August 29, 2005 @ 21:58:
maybe its a subliminal message....
posted by Powell on Tuesday August 30, 2005 @ 02:41:
There will be many people claiming "pit bull!" on the streets calling police saying soandso doesnt have it muzzled and leashed, but 90% of them will most likely not be pitbulls. heh, supid laws bring stupid work for the beurocracy.
posted by biig on Tuesday August 30, 2005 @ 08:41:
These laws don't stop any douche-bag from owning a dog, or training a dog improperly/not at all. It is also impractical to enforce, so it fails to be preventative on both fronts. Like other laws of a similar nature, it will be used like a sledge hammer *after* the damage is already done to make 'examples' of the constituency which is supposed to be represented (both owners and people who have been bitten). Justice is not served by making 'examples' of criminals, and neither is the supposed deterrent effect tangible.
But don't take my word for it, it will be millions of dollars and thousands more people who get bit before any politician has the kahuna's to actually challenge this legislation successfully.
posted by valerian on Tuesday August 30, 2005 @ 12:58:
biig should have been a lawyer
posted by Guest on Tuesday August 30, 2005 @ 19:09:
its not going to take a politician - all it takes is a very expensive lawyer which we already have...but by the by we do have a few mpps on our side (julie monroe, garfield dunlop, joe tascona, john tory, and my personal fav: peter kormos)
posted by theferg on Tuesday August 30, 2005 @ 19:11:
biig if you want a political giggle you should read the hansard from some of the pit bull debates last fall and early this winter...raaear, these mpps are dirrty ;) you get the jist that there are inner rifts that are outside of the workplace (aka so and so slept with buddy's wife, dude borrowed someones boat and crashed it etc etc)
posted by valerian on Wednesday August 31, 2005 @ 17:44:
I would have to say I'm totally with theferg on this one.
Quite frankly I think it's quite comparable to genocide! Look at Hitler and the Jews.. He wanted them gone! So just a thought to ponder.. Would this make the government like Hitler?
On the other side of things, there have been generations of these dogs that are bred for fighting, and you can't ignore that. If you had a child and your neighbour had a dog that they didn't control properly and this dog hurt your child, you'd fight. And it's not the dogs, it's the human beings but unfortunatly, you have to take that weapon out of their hands, and it just so happens that the weapon is the dog. This method isn't the best way to do it. Maybe requiring a special training for owners with pitbulls who don't have the experience is needed, who knows the true answer. But you can't ignore that there has been mishaps and that something needed to be done.
posted by biig [website] on Wednesday August 31, 2005 @ 18:50:
To guest (20:09) - I agree.. lawyers with kahuna's may be substituted :-)
Ferg: Yeah, I can only imagine the type of tom-foolery that goes on outside the confines of parliament.
Valerian: It's not too late, in fact everyone I know tells me to stop talking and arguing like a lawyer. Scary but true.
In my opinion it boils down to the government legislating their 'taste' in dog breeds.
Example in the voice of the liberal activist branch of government: "Ewww.. pitbulls are ugly and bite people. I know other dogs bite people (lots of them do!), but damn I just don't like pit bulls, even the name of the breed is ugly. Yuck. Lets pass a law that enforces everyone else feel and act the same way." It's really a fashion statement wrapped in a feel good law.
I don't think the answer is in mandatory special training for pit bull owners, or even all dog owners because when I think about how that would be implemented, it would most likely be through the existing dog licensing process. Then I think about the "driver licensing" process and how well that works (Hint: it doesn't, just watch the evening news to be depressed), and I dread falling any further down the slippery slope of compulsory education. Some people just don't want to be educated.
That being said, I don't have a perfect answer to the problem except that there seems to be an absence of personal responsibility - both by owners and by those who have been bit. Maybe if we can solve the deeper issue of societal depletion of personal responsibility through political policy, the problem will solve itself. Or maybe not.
posted by R2K on Friday September 2, 2005 @ 06:03:
Well all i know is if my dog saw this fruit fucker Attorney General Michael Bryant he would def. tear him up.....or knaw at his ankles.
Also stop using such big words Dan might get confused.
posted by theferg on Friday September 2, 2005 @ 09:19:
heh, Dan is staying out of this one...on a side note though, you should have seen how quick he unleashed his political side (yes he does have one) the other day....z103 had very negative comments to make on this issue the other morning, and as they are "my" radio station this really upset me. I told Dan about it and he whipped off an email to the station quoting bite statistics, explaining parts of the law where pit bulls get sold off for research, telling them they need to get educated etc. etc. I was sooo proud :) They actually wrote back and apologized! I suppose all the spouses of those involved with this are practically experts on the issue after hearing us bitch about it for 12 solid months! Way to go sweetie!
posted by valerian on Friday September 2, 2005 @ 10:30:
ferg! That's awesome that Dan did that.. WAY TO GO!
posted by wolf on Friday September 2, 2005 @ 12:29:
you've only been bitching about it for 12 months? wow seems a lot longer then that :P
posted by R2K on Friday September 2, 2005 @ 14:26:
only 12....agreed with ya on that wolfie
posted by Guest on Tuesday September 6, 2005 @ 19:24:
yea over 12 months of this every day i cant help but learn a thing or 2 :)
and he was talkin shit on the radio also :)
posted by R2K on Wednesday September 7, 2005 @ 14:54:
Well i hope the e-mail u sent them was spell checked